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Subject: Re: DR3 udsendelser om science fiction
From: fantastiknews [at] flasch.dk (Flemming Rasch)
Date: Feb 16 2017 16:58:31
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Det er selvfølgelig programmer der er lavet til at konkurrere om rating med andre programmer der sendes på tv. Jeg synes de bør vurderes med det som udgangspunkt. Jeg ville da hellere have en mere grundig dokumentar om genren. Men den slags er uhyre svært at få i en tv-verden der er ret meget styret af markedsøkonomi, og hvor også de statslige tv-stationer er underlagt en slags markedsøkonomi i form af måling af seertal. Formidling sælger ikke så godt som underholding, så det vi kan få er underholdning med et vist indhold af formidling, ikke omvendt. Som underholdning synes jeg de programmer fungerede udmærket.

Flemming


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> On 15 Feb 2017, at 18:49, Flemming Rasch <fantastiknews [at] flasch.dk> wrote:
>
>> Jeg synes de var ganske ok. Man kan ikke komme til bunds i genrens
>> historie

>> på så kort tid, så de valgte at lade det handle meget om film, og fokusere
>> på de fire temaer. Det var heller ikke uinteressant for os der kender det
>> meste af det i forvejen, fordi der var interviews med skuespillere,
>> forfattere m.m.
>>
>> Flemming
>>
>> krabat skrev:
>>> Olav M.J. Christiansen wrote:
>>>> DR3 kører i disse dage nogle programmer om science fiction. Det hele kan
>>>> formodentlig også ses på nettet:
>>>> https://www.dr.dk/tv/se/fantastisk-sci-fi/fantastisk-sci-fi-rummet
>>>> Olav
>>> Alting forsvinder jo fra DR efter kort tid, men den findes på 1Channel i
>>> KODI m TVaddons
>>> Originalen hedder
>>> The Real History of Science Fiction
>>> The series heads to the very frontiers of space and science to produce
>>> the

>>> definitive television history of science fiction. The story of one of the
>>> liveliest and most stimulating genres in popular culture will be told
>>> through its impact on cinema, television and literature. Each episode
>>> will

>>> explore one of the enduring themes of science fiction: time travel; the
>>> exploration of space; robots and artificial intelligence; and aliens. It
>>> will be made with the help of the genre's greatest pioneers: the
>>> filmmakers, writers, actors, and graphic artists whose obsession and
>>> imagination has taken them into the unknown. Having explored the future,
>>> the past, parallel universes and galaxies far, far away, they are now
>>> ready to report back on their experiences.
>>> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2980052/
>>> 6/10 Slightly Misleading Televisual History of a Popular Genre
>>> This four-part series, produced to mark the BBC's science fiction season,
>>> is slightly misleading in tone; it is not a history of science fiction,
>>> but rather a history of modern science fiction adaptations on film and
>>> television. Presenter Dominic Sandbrook pays scant attention to the major
>>> antecedents of the genre: Jules Verne, H. G. Wells, Mary Shelley et. al.
>>> He is far more interested in looking at popular works of film and
>>> television such as STAR WARS, DOCTOR WHO, FRANKENSTEIN, and their effect
>>> on contemporary popular cultures. Some of the assertions he makes are
>>> quite suggestive; the STAR WARS and STAR TREK epics, for example, he sees
>>> as contemporary rewritings of the old naval narratives (e.g. Hornblower)
>>> popular in the mid-twentieth century, while futuristic epics such as
>>> BATTLESTAR GALACTICA return us to the age of progress and enlightenment
>>> characteristic of the Victorian era.
>>> Interspersed with Sandbrook's presentation are a series of interviews
>>> with

>>> personalities from the world of SF - novelists such as Neil Gaiman and
>>> Ursula K. Le Guin, and actors such as David Tennant, Richard Dreyfuss and
>>> Keir Dullea, and technicians such as Douglas Trumbull. All their
>>> reminiscences are interesting enough; but do not help to dispel the
>>> suspicion that Sandbrook isn't really interested in SF as a genre working
>>> across a transmedial platform embracing print and online as well as
>>> cinematic and televisual cultures. Rather he is interested in compiling a
>>> series of programs giving viewers the chance to take a nostalgic wallow
>>> in

>>> their favorite memories from their youth, and how such memories continue
>>> to shape their present lives.
>>> As a series of celebratory programs, TOMORROW'S WORLDS is watchable
>>> enough, but a serious history it certainly ain't. Sandbrook cuts a
>>> pleasant figure on screen, but he lacks the panache and wit of some of
>>> the

>>> real masters of television documentary presentation such as Andrew
>>> Graham-Dixon.
>>> 6/10 History of SF movies and TV shows, WH in first place
>>> The title is pretty much misleading, or just incorrect. It starts with
>>> some famous actors and is focused on SF movies and TV serials, in 98%
>>> time

>>> approx. From 4 announced corners (Robots, Space, Invasion, Time travel) I
>>> seen so far first 2. There were some interesting fact mentioned, like
>>> influence of movie Silent Runner on George Lucas and Star Wars. But in
>>> Robot episode there was really little talk about SF literature. Of
>>> course,

>>> they cited Asimov's 3 laws of Robotic - but what about European writers ?
>>> Little better was at start of Space episode - at least they mentioned
>>> Verne, Wells .. Still, literature was just marginally touched. It is
>>> shame, especially as right at start was said that history of SF is
>>> history

>>> of imagination. Watching movies is not imagination. Reading books is. But
>>> it seems that nowadays it gets forgotten.
>>> What's that WH in summary - Western Hemisphere :-) There were some nice
>>> movies, TV serials made in EU - completely ignored.
>>
>>

Feb 14  v Re: DR3 udsendelser om science fiction  krabat
Feb 15  `T Re: DR3 udsendelser om science fiction  Flemming Rasch
Feb 15  .+T Re: DR3 udsendelser om science fiction  kenneth krabat
Feb 16  .i`- Re: DR3 udsendelser om science fiction  Flemming Rasch
Feb 15  .`- Re: DR3 udsendelser om science fiction  kenneth krabat